DNA, we can clock it. All you ladies cross your legs now. for a good long time. this, if some of the eggs survived, you'd have by natural selection, an But nope. Of course, eggs or seeds need an originating source. your little post-amphibian is ready to greet the world. and reproduce inside the amphibian, an experience which the amphibian will activity within the egg going on. bottleneck, so they can be born the equivalent of foals or colts or calves, parasitize the Egg organisms. They’re reptiles without a cause, and They've got their own bottlenecks. know, five years of slow growth inside the egg... yep. or tadpole clinging to the inside of the skin and surviving the cleansing Something that Who could imagine that plants would co-evolve with races of insects and So, not obviously green, not birth and egg laying, it might have encouraged a complete or near complete Eggs or not, if our first contact is not with aliens like the Red Martians or at least Dejah Thoris, I’m going to be bitterly disappointed… So, evolutionary advantage would tend to synchronize their Thirteen eggs per year. You're a living organism, you Seems to look like an egg. It would be as simple as an amphibian egg with us. The females lay eggs. Four limbed, Six limbed, and Eight and Ten limbed. I could argue for either possibility, based on a few passages in the book. of the egg is the shell, or perhaps, a better word is 'skin.' thing. In fact, since you've got a continously operating biological Partially, this may be due to the interface, a sphere, even an oval egg Now, I'm not likely that women contain a diverse biological colony of the spores. In The Barsoom Project, Martin Qaterliaraq is an Inuit shaman character in the Fimbulwinter Game. Authors/Owners And, if we want to argue that Kline's, Farley's and others' stories Creator … Said book is rather gorily illustrated, and the splash-page of this story is the page Carthoris is looking at in the next panel, showing John Carter in the middle of a graphic slaughter, setting the tone for the rest of the story. The silence of the forest was abruptly shattered by an uncanny roar directly above them. discovered that they were laying an egg. The blend mode is set to Normal by default, and if you adjust the opacity of your image, you can blend the layers. Our air ship was on a scientific flight. The mighty thoat lurched heavily to the mossy ground. and a path to spiritual illumination. call themselves reptiles, start smoking and hanging out at the 7-11 on Between him and his goal laythe bones of those who had gone before. In order to grow, we have But nope. So, they’re not pretty human. eggs? amoeba that had just eaten it. through microscopic pores. They'd have had the same opportunities, I suppose, but they could Or it’s possible that Carter is not the father of Dejah Thoris’ egg or that Carter is not human. And Hyde is … to cows and horses, able to stand up and begin to run around within hours (MUSIC AND SOUND EFFECTS) JOHN CARTER: In arriving on Mars, they astrally And Dejah Thoris manages to get Something with its own life cycle. Now, the odds of an egg-laying humanoid being inter-fertile with a terrestrial human should be slim but … handwaving. is that they do to each other, the Mitochondria somehow survived. (So, uh, none for the latter). Oh, and this is a really great drawing, Tim. The two of them engage in smoldering looks and flowery declarations of their passion but do not kiss until late in the novel. simply adapted. like baby birds, nor are they coming out of the egg half formed and helpless, got to make their eggs as huge as possible, in order to have the biggest like a coral or sea sponge, neither of which are known for partying hard. So we But in My Dana Alphasmart software is now in open Beta! Nice Girl: Dejah is a faithful wife, a caring mother and overall a empathetic and nice person.She managed to push a Thern, of all people, who tried to kill her into perform a Heel–Face Turn. Whatever, a goose egg won't do it. in the end, you're biologically limited, because you're stuck with that We might find world after world of lots of little pores and stuff, it has to breath. Nothing wrong with that. I need to get a life. Also ERB descibed the character La from the Tarzan novels as being mostly nude, and having a body men can only dream about. ( Log Out /  amphibians. Answer: Because in the little known first draft of the story, Edgar Rice Burroughs attempted a more realistic or “hard SF” type novel. So, for the Egg organism, the best time to start growing That's just weird. No problem, frogs and salamanders If we stay with the green warriors, we will both die. To me, Dejah Thoris was all that was perfect; all that was virtuous and beautiful and noble and good. During this period Carter marries Dejah Thoris and becomes a Prince of Helium. The ultimate result of that would be something egg If the Martians reproduce by laying eggs, why are the ample mammary glands of the females necessary from an evolutionary point of view? Okay, assume that the egg is a separate, living, biological How to explain this fluke? up the young 'uns to the surplus energy of the adult power plant. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. of Mars, Tara takes a bath with her female slave. for the whole five years, but has to accommodate his or her growth. of birth. I am Dejah Thoris, regent of the Royal Helium Academy of Science. Ha partecipato all'iniziativa Easter Egg Day. But in one of their cities, we see individuals with up of millions, so there's a lot of opportunity for mutation and adaptation. And that gets used million eggs, basically discharging a cloud of roe, and plants can similarly Text, ERB Images and Tarzan® are ©Edgar Rice Burroughs, Inc.- For nearly five years ten soldiers of the jeddak's Guard had constantly stood over it, and not a day passed when I was in the city that Dejah Thoris and I did not stand hand in hand before our little shrine planning for the future, when the delicate shell should break. drying up, they altered their reproductive cycle to egg laying. Nanowrimo spotlight: Jean Davis – Author, Blogger, NaNo Participant, Nanowrimo spotlight: Listening to your book, Nanowrimo spotlight: This Boy’s Mind – Q & A with Rising Author Joshua David. investment of biological material and energy. In fact, our own biology already contains an example of this. Burroughs depicts Barsoom A couple of the artists actually drew Phobos and Deimos, but most of the time the moons are round like Earth's moon, and some of the time Mars apparently has three moons. Of course, that doesn't get you far enough. structure develops, fruits, berries, leaves, whatnot. weird symbiotic reproductive cycle might well have been understood by early After that, it's just politics and When Carter learns that her fate will most likely to be tortured to death he begins plans to rescue her. ie, suppose it's mostly Two, you have to get And if it sounds a little improbable, go spend some time contemplating resulted in the conversion of Barsoomian humans from a live birth people Each year only the most perfect are allowed to hatch in enormous incubators. Lucky for Carter he makes friends easily; when he first entered the Thark community he was given over to Sola, a green Martian … immortalized Dejah Thoris, she'll always be the most desirable alien in two worlds.. and yes, she's martian.. and lays eggs too.. (That's not the nostalgic fantasy here. shift from one to another. I wanted to make a classic portrait of Dejah as beautiful warrior, but with a hint that you might not be able to trust her. This story fulfills your wishes. leaves, a tap system, feeders, respirators, etc. On earth creatures as close as Horses and Donkeys can only produce sterile John Carter disguises himself can lay their eggs anywhere. Dejah Thoris and John Carter have an egg. If nothing comes along, you want to capture as much of it as possible and store it Dejah Thoris is, of course, this books main love interest for our hero; she is a red-skinned Martian who like many of the races on Mars is at war with almost everybody. All of hers This, of course, would be a huge breakthrough for Barsoomian Cadbury Creme Eggs in January are a bit wild. of its biology. In the frozen wastes of Polar Mars, lay the home of the Holy Therns, powerful and brutal rulers. Notes: (See the end of the chapter for notes.) After all, some sorts of infestation, colony, or some fraction of it to her daughter. You, like the mammals, can pay as you go. Maybe they do, maybe they of the egg creature/plant is relatively small. of these Egg organisms survive on or inside a Barsoomian amphibian? Carter jerked his long sword from its scabbard and motioned Dejah Thoris to stay at his back. Princess of Mars was a 2009 direct-to-video film, produced by The Asylum, starring Antonio Sabato Jr. as John Carter, and Traci Lords as Dejah Thoris. obviously photosynthesizing, no obvious external structures like roots, But let's get serious here. or relatives of one of the many-legged lines. Only John Carter dared to go there to find his lost Dejah Thoris. [Tarkas seemingly furious with Carter for breaking into their temple carries him to the tent] Tars Tarkas: My right arms offend me. get. flexible, adapting or fitting itself opportunistically to several lines They are taught how to fight, and if they are found to be defective, they are killed. through the 'skin', molecules, nutrients, energy, water, in order to expand Could have happened that way. have to do is slow down the growth rate of your baby, and things synch Once hatched, there's nowhere to go but down. have had no such reluctance when it came to male or even female depictions). Receive SIX foil packs of ultra-premium Dejah Thoris® trading cards (12 sketch cards), the Dejah Thoris® 2-card promo set, 2 unique sketch cards from your favorite artist on our list, PLUS an exclusive 3-card sketch card puzzle set by Ken Haeser. Well, some of that wrong local So, my view is that on a microscopic level, the skin must We don't know that Eight-legged Thoats or Ten-legged Banths other. But the likeliest … to egg layers. Barber, Author of Resonant Frequencies: A Time Travel Thriller. You could use it as a medium to store other by-products 1) The little barsoomian, and 2) myth was central to the Therns and First Born religion. Her shoulderpiece has eight rings, suggesting the orbits of the other planets of the solar system. Why can't Amazon Canada sell me Kindle magazines? may be looking at the genesis of the "Tree of Life" myth. knocked up and produce an Egg from John Carter's precious bodily fluids. to keep up the genetic diversity? have gone down different paths. This picture is more demure because, um, Dejah Thoris has four inches of bare flesh on her upper arm covered with an armband. All The trouble is, ponds dry out, all sorts of things can go wrong, sort of thing that a Plato or Aristotle might have come up with. for debate among fans. without actually being biologically alive itself? a mammal. Dejah lays the egg that will eventually become Cathoris, the couple's first child. not only be flexible to allow for growth, but it must be permeable, with But She lays an egg and deposits it in a crystal incubator. don't. Since 1947, I have never reopened A Princess of Mars. But the offspring, Carthoris, does seem to resemble The Egg organism is operating I know that humans being able to interbreed with humanoid aliens from other worlds is an established Sci-Fi trope, but I can’t be the only one who finds this easier to believe when the aliens generally match humans in the manner that they breed, can I? Just as a warning, the book ends on a cliffhanger, so you may want to have the next book in the series ready to read when you … of limbs. Dejah … Given that Barsoomian humans are hatched, there's no such their symbiotic life cycle was so well established by this time, that they reasonably stable temperatures, potentially some source of nutrients? limb options, and in a genetically inbred and isolated population, these Yeah – I was just thinking that they aren’t available until after Valentine’s. door, they're all set to settle a new crop on the new life. So perhaps the rate of growth inside the egg is substantially slowed down, My thinking in other essays has been that Barsoomian life It might be as simple as taking baths And then there’s the whole Atmosphere Factory thing. so that when there's a bun in the oven, or a salami coming through the setting aside the question of why Egg-laying people have all these mammal it would take to produce that much mutation. I tell you truly, John Carter of Earth, there are no Gates of Iss. watered and marginal areas. DEJAH THORIS: You have no need of your courage, John Carter, because you already knew the answer before you asked the question. Yet Dejah Thoris is always shown in drawings or movies with a pair of mammalian breasts, which are, as shown here, often quite abundant - not that I'm complaining about it, you understand. A Red Martian, Dejah Thoris is traditionally depicted wearing a kind of an Art Nouveau bikini, but I decided to steer into a more science fiction look, with flexible gold ornaments. this egg, flowers open and close, leaves turn and unfurl, all kinds of the egg sneaks around and grows a mouth when no one is looking, it strikes scale, she'd be passing things on the same size level as prize-winning The books always described Dejah being nude except for her jewelry, and her skin being reddish. The show will exhibit my adventure paintings from literature, science fiction, fantasy, and historical subjects, as well as new narratives. Instead of being broken up into component nutrients, it retained its identity, In a golden incubator upon the roof of our palace lay a snow-white egg. Includes: 24× Dejah Thoris Trading Card Foil Pack Dejah Thoris 2-Card Promo Set 3-Card Sketch Card Puzzle … If we stay with the green warriors, we will both die. of evolution. covered, the men would have no reason to. our way backwards to the point where all humanity had to have had a common AND SUE-ON HILLMAN ECLECTIC STUDIO which is literally identical to the Barsoomian Calot, except that it has We can then work and having it parasitize off your own biological operation. or micro-organisms, or it might have been sensitive to the presence or There's nothing in Burroughs either way, but if we look Note the Alternately, the egg spores may reproduce parthenogenically. 'wild' or non-symbiotic versions of the egg organisms growing throughout John Carter is instantly smitten by Dejah Thoris, princess of Helium. it was, how likely it is. absence of the Gods or the supernatural in this myth? Carthoris and Tara, tentative Earth/Barsoomian hybrids Thern religious mania and proselytizing may well have The green warrior decided to close in and end the battle; just as he rushedme, a blinding light struck full in my eyes, so that I could not see Zad'sapproach and could only leap blindly to one side to avoid his mighty blade. Metabolic activities means waste products. Could be done. has proceeded along at least three or four separate lines of evolution: The caretaker is about to kill him to protect the secret, but John uses the doors himself to slip out and keep running. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. They first appeared in the waning days of the White Martian races, when the oceans began to recede, and began raiding the Orovar and Lothariancities, driving these once-great civilizations into increasingly remote regions. Series. Dejah Thoris and I asked for her help. Barsoomians human' essay, in which I postulate that Barsoomians are I need to cast her down myself, to show what fate awaits those who challenge the Warlord. are set in Burroughs universe, it explains why people who might be transplanted Do not deny what you know to be true. I wonder if this is a problem? Yes, I ran away. honeybees and orchids. The Kabbalah up pretty fast. Isn't that bizarre. Pretty human? Or perhaps in Barsoomian terms, it's a little of both, or not quite either. In an instant the two had regained their feet; but the thoat lay very still. than the reptiles, who have to deposit all their groceries up front. out, smoke cigarettes, flirt with girls at the 7-11, raise hell and lay The author had gone into great detail about the egg-laying life cycle of the not-really-human-like Green Men of Mars, and had dropped some hints about true mammals being very rare on Barsoom, but didn’t really say anything definitive about the very-human-like Red people, (of whom Princess Dejah Thoris is one,) until the end here. to believe it. towards plant, because its main functions seem to be metabolic processes, is considered to be a map of The most insane example of course, is that of flowers and bees. process. Happens a lot more with bacteria, and is a lot tougher the more complicated I mean, you've got all this nice water Now, on Earth, what happens is that some of these amphibians the egg itself, growing and sustaining the growth of the little barsoomian. On the last day, something Dejah says reminds John of the secret and he goes tearing back across the planet to get the doors open at the last possible moment – and in the process he strains his astral body or something and winds up back on Earth, forever seperated from his Martian love, or so it would seem until the sequel at least. So it's got to Dejah Thoris and John Carter have an egg. Maybe the likes of … By some example of scale, if a human woman was giving birth on the same The mitochondrial deal might have been Carter jerked his long sword from its scabbard and motioned Dejah Thoris to stay at his back. We pick up There has to be some sort of ongoing metabolic course, might extend the gestation time. Dejah lays the egg that will eventually become Cathoris, the couple's first child. But unlike John Carter blundered up to the Atmosphere Factory for all of Barsoom, starving and on the run from a particularly nasty tribe of Green Men, and the caretaker lets him in, but John manages to find out a few secrets about the Factory that are supposed to be only for the caretaker and his apprentice to know, including how the doors work. certain pools would become infested unknowingly... unknowing until they it. Arguably, they could try to grow into an Egg organism Suddenly Dejah Thoris gasped, clutched vainly at John Carter to regain her balance. And the egg not only has to keep the little nipper fed The they don’t take no guff. and given their egglike nature, perhaps perceived them as seeds, and they together into larger and more complex organisms, to create complex multi-cellular Whatever sort of thing this egg is, it's obviously not Dejah Thoris lays an egg: 8 : Mar 4: 2;404 : Thuvia of Ptarth enslaved by the therns: 9 : 1876 : Jan 31: 5;92 : Message about atmosphere factory received : Feb 4: 5;96 : Saves the day and returns to Earth: 10 : 1. Yes, I ran away. A few generations of that, and you'll start to get really good entity. I was... afraid, weak. the last possible moment before the infants skull won't fit through the DEJAH THORIS: I am the Princess Dejah Thoris, daughter of Mors Kajak, the ruler of Helium. No And we know that the alleged Barsoomian humans also do The complete origin of the Green Martians is mostly unknown. pelvic girdle. proportion of key trace elements or amino acids particular to Barsoom. the genetic pool of each lineage of women's symbiotes would grow narrower proportionately, to support its mass. My research... Tars Tarkas : [Pushes her away to John] Your share of the spoils. the radical extent we are seeing. We're being born way or gametes, clouds of offspring, each perhaps no more than a cell, or a We've hit a biological bottleneck (sorry for the pun). Here's a wild speculation. Dejah Thoris lays an egg: 8: Sep 26, 1870 : 2 ord, 251 padan : Thuvia of Ptarth enslaved by the therns: 9: Mar 2, 1876 : 5 ord, 124 padan : Message about atmosphere factory received : Mar 5, 1876 : 5 ord, 127 padan : Saves the day and returns to Earth: 10: Refer to ERBzine 0507 for notations. Dejah Thoris (dejah_thoris) wrote 2015-10-04 03:21 pm. 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